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**Carlisia Thompson:** Yes... Oh, the first `for` that comes up is not a snippet. |
**Ramya Rao:** It's a keyword. The second and the forth are snippets. So you differentiate them by what is the icon in the suggestion item. Those box kind of things are snippets. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** So I have to type the downward arrow to get to the other ones. Is there a quicker way? |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** You can map it. |
**Ramya Rao:** There's a setting to show the snippet suggestion up top, or bottom, or in line... So you can play with that. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Really? |
**Ramya Rao:** Yes. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Okay. So Preferences, Settings? |
**Ramya Rao:** Yeah. Or `Cmd,` that's a shortcut. This is really becoming a customer support call. \[laughter\] I'm not even looking at Slack... Are people asking questions in Slack? |
**Erik St. Martin:** No, they were basically joking about stuff and Carlisia's clicky keyboard... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I'm so sorry, I forgot to change my keyboard... Oh, my gosh. |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[32:10\] Yeah, I usually trade mine out, too. I've got a mechanical keyboard... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** It's the end of the show and I realized this... Sorry, guys. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** It's alright, you get geek creds for that. \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think everybody's trying to guess which Cherry MX you're using, based on the sounds of the clicking. \[laughter\] |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Okay, I don't know if I should say or if I should let people guess... It's the brown one. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Brown? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, Thor got it. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** There you go, Thor4 got it on the channel. There you go. I do wanna switch gears from tech support briefly... |
**Ramya Rao:** Yes, please. \[laughter\] |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** So you sort of took over from Luke right around October of last year, and now you're sort of effectively playing the role of product manager, and coding from what you're hearing, and doing your own triaging and trying to keep up with the language changes, and trying to keep up with VS Code change... |
Obviously, you kind of got thrust into this role - what would you say have been some of the biggest lessons you've learned from this experience so far? |
**Ramya Rao:** That's an awesome question. Initially, when I started -- you need to know this was my first open source project as well... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Well done! |
**Ramya Rao:** \[laughs\] Thank you... I was very excited; the whole process, talking to random strangers and discussing code and doing PRs - it was an awesome experience, and in that, I think in the initial few months I got so carried away that I was releasing an update every week. I was like, "Oh, shiny new thing! I ... |
I kept doing that, and then the lesson I learned was that doesn't scale. \[laughter\] And also because, like you said, I was the product manager, the developer, the person going around fetching requirements, the tester, the customer engagement person... All roles into one, and that was a rush as well. |
Coming from the previous teams where "You're just a developer. The team comes up with a design or a requirement, and then you discuss what the technical aspects are and then you go implement it, and then that's done!" But here, everything rolled into one and that was another high as well. |
For a couple of months I absolutely loved it. I was checking my notifications every half an hour to see "Is there anybody asking something? Should I answer that? Should I say this?" It was hard for me to pace myself and get into a rhythm, but that was one lesson, that is "Slow down." |
Now I release almost once a month; that's a much better cadence. I still reply to notifications once a day instead of every half an hour. So yeah, that was my lesson. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think the difficulty too when you think about it - when you're developing a product for your employer, there's usually a chain, a hierarchy, and you're reporting to somebody, and you're only responsible for making that person happy. They work out the details between you and other teams and how th... |
**Ramya Rao:** \[36:03\] Yeah, that has happened, as well. At the same time - I've told this to a few people already... There was this one time that I was discussing this PR with a person, and I was like "You know, this won't work in this scenario, but this might be better", and then they go "Oh yeah, that's right! You... |
But yeah, I never knew that a simple thank you from a total stranger feels so good. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's awesome. And that's actually part of the reason why we try to do our \#FreeSoftwareFriday every week, too. You usually reach out to open source projects when you need something. We can't advocate enough... Just file an issue telling people how much you love the work they're doing. Or maybe s... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Or just give them some props on Twitter, like most people do. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah. So I think we are probably well over our first sponsor break, so let's go ahead and break for our sponsors, because they make this show happen. Our sponsor for today is [Toptal](https://www.toptal.com/). |
**Break:** \[37:22\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** And we are back, talking to [Ramya](https://twitter.com/ramyanexus) from the [VS Code plugin](https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-go). I think we've talked quite a bit about the plugin and about the future, and stuff... Do you guys wanna jump into any projects and news? I think the past couple epis... |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** Sounds good. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So I found a cool project -- well, technically I'm not responsible for finding it; my brother linked me to it, and showed me how cool it is. It's along the editor thing, and hopefully Ramya won't beat me up because of it... \[laughter\] |
**Ramya Rao:** Hey, I already said, to each his own! Use whatever you like. \[laughter\] |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** \[unintelligible 00:38:39.29\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** I thought it was really cool because it's also tied to Go. It's called [Gonvim](https://github.com/dzhou121/gonvim), and it's a GUI frontend for nvim written in Go. That's pretty cool. I haven't tried it yet, so I can't tell you whether I love it or hate it, but I just saw it and it looks pretty co... |
Another cool thing that I just saw yesterday, which also came from Microsoft (the Azure team) is called [Draft](https://github.com/Azure/draft), and it looks really cool. It's basically a way of determining the type of application you're running, and automatically generating Docker files and the Kubernetes specs for it... |
**Ramya Rao:** Oh, Docker reminds me - we have a Docker extension. |
**Erik St. Martin:** For VS Code? |
**Ramya Rao:** Yeah. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh, cool. I wonder what features are in that for completion and things like that. |
**Ramya Rao:** You should go check it out! |
**Erik St. Martin:** I should... Even more reason to try it, I don't think I have a Docker extension in Vim. |
**Johnny Boursiquot:** There you go... |
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